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Fenwick Foundation
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Founded: Oct 31, 2020
Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Fenwick Foundation » Thu Apr 21, 2022 4:01 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Arpasia wrote:Cliché: An increase in nations selling slaves in GE&T, along with the crackdown on slave markets done by international organizations such as ULIBOR.

I'd say it's summies but I'm more convinced it's just an annoying bitter revenge thing going on to try to bait mods into shutting down GE&T or banning them, for what purpose I don't know, but it's even more braindead than simply flaming/flambaiting for the sake of a reaction.

Well that's an interesting theory.
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Valentine Z
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Apr 21, 2022 5:43 am

Gonswanza wrote:
Arpasia wrote:Cliché: An increase in nations selling slaves in GE&T, along with the crackdown on slave markets done by international organizations such as ULIBOR.

I'd say it's summies but I'm more convinced it's just an annoying bitter revenge thing going on to try to bait mods into shutting down GE&T or banning them, for what purpose I don't know, but it's even more braindead than simply flaming/flambaiting for the sake of a reaction.

If it helps, actually be assured that there are still a lot of good GE&T storefronts out there, and I don't really think the whole place will be shut down just because of that. Maybe a selective ban on slavery threads (yay).

Of course, I'm not a mod, so I'm not making these calls. But it's something that is not likely.
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Gonswanza
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Gonswanza » Thu Apr 21, 2022 6:34 am

Valentine Z wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:I'd say it's summies but I'm more convinced it's just an annoying bitter revenge thing going on to try to bait mods into shutting down GE&T or banning them, for what purpose I don't know, but it's even more braindead than simply flaming/flambaiting for the sake of a reaction.

If it helps, actually be assured that there are still a lot of good GE&T storefronts out there, and I don't really think the whole place will be shut down just because of that. Maybe a selective ban on slavery threads (yay).

Of course, I'm not a mod, so I'm not making these calls. But it's something that is not likely.

I'm well aware, but it still seems like a piss poor attempt to rile up the moderation team and player base given most people who aren't buying or reacting to the threads clearly don't care.
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Perikuresu
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Founded: Jan 02, 2021
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Perikuresu » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:24 am

Gonswanza wrote:I'm well aware, but it still seems like a piss poor attempt to rile up the moderation team and player base given most people who aren't buying or reacting to the threads clearly don't care.

Made even more pathetic because all you just need to do is to just commit political nicknaming, e.g., call Xi Jinping, well what people usually compare him to, or Kim Jon Un what Trump called him, or what one person did: call Putin an a-hole

NOTE THAT THIS IS AN EXAMPLE AND I'M NOT INTENTIONALLY LOOKING FOR TROUBLE
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Postby Dayganistan » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:05 am

Gonswanza wrote:I'm well aware, but it still seems like a piss poor attempt to rile up the moderation team and player base given most people who aren't buying or reacting to the threads clearly don't care.

I don't think it's an attempt to rile anyone up. I think it's just teenage edgelords gonna edgelord. And a certain user is going to make a million puppets that are more or less the same.
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Arpasia
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Postby Arpasia » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:17 am

Dayganistan wrote:
Gonswanza wrote:I'm well aware, but it still seems like a piss poor attempt to rile up the moderation team and player base given most people who aren't buying or reacting to the threads clearly don't care.

I don't think it's an attempt to rile anyone up. I think it's just teenage edgelords gonna edgelord. And a certain user is going to make a million puppets that are more or less the same.

Most of the slaver nations have default flags, so I think that they're only troll accounts.
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Fenwick Foundation
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Compulsory Consumerist State

Postby Fenwick Foundation » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:18 am

Arpasia wrote:
Dayganistan wrote:I don't think it's an attempt to rile anyone up. I think it's just teenage edgelords gonna edgelord. And a certain user is going to make a million puppets that are more or less the same.

Most of the slaver nations have default flags, so I think that they're only troll accounts.

No, I just lost the logo I used to use on this account.
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Postby Gandoor » Thu Apr 21, 2022 1:58 pm

Baldwin Park wrote:Occult nations spamming their sigils and demonic shit in their sigs or flags. Its a very niche thing but is a terrible cliche that pisses me off because certain symbols and sigils are like invitations to certain entities. I know it has to be a loose group of occultists and satanists doing it. Theyre always trying to psych ppl out. They tend to say things or roleplay as edgelordy as possible. Ugh.

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Neo-Western East Korea
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Postby Neo-Western East Korea » Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:19 pm

Gandoor wrote:
Baldwin Park wrote:Occult nations spamming their sigils and demonic shit in their sigs or flags. Its a very niche thing but is a terrible cliche that pisses me off because certain symbols and sigils are like invitations to certain entities. I know it has to be a loose group of occultists and satanists doing it. Theyre always trying to psych ppl out. They tend to say things or roleplay as edgelordy as possible. Ugh.

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No no bro you don’t get it there’s a cabal of occultists on the funny nation designer website and they’re making slightly over designed flags to summon actual demons in the real world and no wait where are you going

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The African Emirates
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby The African Emirates » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:01 pm

Neo-Western East Korea wrote:
Gandoor wrote:
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No no bro you don’t get it there’s a cabal of occultists on the funny nation designer website and they’re making slightly over designed flags to summon actual demons in the real world and no wait where are you going

going to summon demons of course
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Gandoor
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Postby Gandoor » Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:29 pm

That was genuinely one of the most unhinged things I've ever read in all my years of using this site.

Like there's extremist or radical political views and then there's 'occultists and satanists are trying to summon demons on the nation roleplay site'.
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Perikuresu
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Perikuresu » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:02 pm

Gandoor wrote:That was genuinely one of the most unhinged things I've ever read in all my years of using this site.

Like there's extremist or radical political views and then there's 'occultists and satanists are trying to summon demons on the nation roleplay site'.

I remember when the Give AN a Culture Shock thread (the original one) that one of these satanist nations were like

"We are demons, we are atheists, WE ARE DEMON ATHEISTS"

and I'm just like, NOPE, and /still me'd them cause I thought they were a tryhard edgelord
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Feyrisshire
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Feyrisshire » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:06 pm

Perikuresu wrote:-snip-


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Arpasia
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Postby Arpasia » Thu Apr 21, 2022 8:10 pm

Cultist nations? Haven't seen them.
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Le temps Philippeaux: Operation Mill succeeds in retrieving stranded TAF Osage crew, soldiers report no hostile engagements. | Large oil slick belonging to unknown vessel spotted 204 km off Afrean shores. | Occidentian helicopter squadron reported missing near Papirstan-Arakistan border, Al-Muhahar suspected to be responsible. | Noirien Defense Force overthrows Black Coast government, military vehicles surround Port-Zaba.
Since those people have anime girls and whatnot on their flags, I decide to use him in my flag, and also, this is not Henry on my flag, it's Konrad.

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Kodak
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Ex-Nation

Postby Kodak » Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:17 pm

Anime girl profile pics as flags
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Gandoor
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Postby Gandoor » Fri Apr 22, 2022 4:56 am

Sorry you're not as cultured as I am.
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Perikuresu
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Postby Perikuresu » Fri Apr 22, 2022 5:38 am

Gandoor wrote:Sorry you're not as cultured as I am.

I think that was fired at Ferry, who usually gets them like that one friend with mozzies during summer
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Gandoor
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Postby Gandoor » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:05 am

A more vintage cliché is people putting 'Mods Only' in their thread titles in Moderation to let other people know you don't want them to chime in with their opinion when you report a post for possible rulebreaking.

Honestly considering that people still do that, maybe we should start doing it again.
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Postby Arpasia » Fri Apr 22, 2022 6:06 am

Gandoor wrote:A more vintage cliché is people putting 'Mods Only' in their thread titles in Moderation to let other people know you don't want them to chime in with their opinion when you report a post for possible rulebreaking.

Honestly considering that people still do that, maybe we should start doing it again.

Is the OP themselves a mod? like Reploid or someone else?
Ek Sê!, A Nation on Eastern Altropia, basically an Alternate Universe France.
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Le temps Philippeaux: Operation Mill succeeds in retrieving stranded TAF Osage crew, soldiers report no hostile engagements. | Large oil slick belonging to unknown vessel spotted 204 km off Afrean shores. | Occidentian helicopter squadron reported missing near Papirstan-Arakistan border, Al-Muhahar suspected to be responsible. | Noirien Defense Force overthrows Black Coast government, military vehicles surround Port-Zaba.
Since those people have anime girls and whatnot on their flags, I decide to use him in my flag, and also, this is not Henry on my flag, it's Konrad.

Likes: Quailty Posts, F7, GE&T, Henry Stickmin, S-61R, UH-60.
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Postby Dayganistan » Sat Apr 23, 2022 12:40 pm

Is doing a retcon on one of your existing characters to essentially make them new rather than just completely making a new character a cliche?
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Postby Gonswanza » Sat Apr 23, 2022 3:51 pm

Dayganistan wrote:Is doing a retcon on one of your existing characters to essentially make them new rather than just completely making a new character a cliche?

I don't think so?
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Fahran » Sat Apr 23, 2022 5:37 pm

The Onox Legion wrote:Eh, personally I am a fan of edgy stuff, but most screw it up by an attempt to be seen as cool, using the edge not for itself, but in a vain attempt of being the cool kid. Protip: That never works.

Oh, I'm not hating on edginess, even to seem cool. I'm just remarking that it's a common fixture in many types of writing, one that serves a variety of purposes - from making your military spaceships look heckin' cool to making a bad boy romantic interest who doesn't play by the rules.
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Postby Arpasia » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:10 pm

Fahran wrote:
The Onox Legion wrote:Eh, personally I am a fan of edgy stuff, but most screw it up by an attempt to be seen as cool, using the edge not for itself, but in a vain attempt of being the cool kid. Protip: That never works.

Oh, I'm not hating on edginess, even to seem cool. I'm just remarking that it's a common fixture in many types of writing, one that serves a variety of purposes - from making your military spaceships look heckin' cool to making a bad boy romantic interest who doesn't play by the rules.

Even RMB RP said no to edgy RP posts, I myself likes to avoid edginess.
Ek Sê!, A Nation on Eastern Altropia, basically an Alternate Universe France.
NS Stats executed by M67 Rifle.
Le temps Philippeaux: Operation Mill succeeds in retrieving stranded TAF Osage crew, soldiers report no hostile engagements. | Large oil slick belonging to unknown vessel spotted 204 km off Afrean shores. | Occidentian helicopter squadron reported missing near Papirstan-Arakistan border, Al-Muhahar suspected to be responsible. | Noirien Defense Force overthrows Black Coast government, military vehicles surround Port-Zaba.
Since those people have anime girls and whatnot on their flags, I decide to use him in my flag, and also, this is not Henry on my flag, it's Konrad.

Likes: Quailty Posts, F7, GE&T, Henry Stickmin, S-61R, UH-60.
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Gandoor
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Gandoor » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:15 pm

To me edginess conveys being tryhard and catering to the 13 year old demographic.
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Karazicu
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Postby Karazicu » Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:29 pm

I can bring up an example of a complete edgefest like this old pile of rubbish I dug up rummaging in the refuse bin of rather old II threads. Just look at this shit and how well it worked out for these mates trying to look cool and edgy lol.
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